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M1
M10:00

好,Warren,这个问题来自一位 Berkshire 的股东,他说自己持股已经十年了。

Okay, Warren, this question comes from a Berkshire shareholder who says they've been a shareholder for 10 years.

我得说,这可能是我收到过、问给你最尖锐的问题之一了。

I should say this may be one of the most pointed questions I've ever received for you.
M2
M20:09

不过你还是决定把这个问题交给我来问。

But you've elected to give it to me anyway.

不过我确实这么做了。

But I did.
M1
M10:16

这位股东写道,我每年在这场股东大会上,都会看那段你代表 Salomon 在国会作证的影片,把它看作什么叫有道德准绳的象征。

The shareholder writes, I have watched the movie every year at this meeting when you testify in front of Congress on behalf of Salomon as the symbol of what it means to have a moral compass.

投资者现在越来越希望把钱投到那些在社会责任和道德责任上都负责任的公司。

Investors are increasingly looking to invest in companies that are socially and morally responsible.

所以,当 CNBC 问到你,企业在推动围绕枪支销售的合理政策方面可以发挥什么作用时,我感到很不安。

So I was disturbed when you were asked on CNBC about the role that business could play in sensible policies around the sales of guns.

你说你觉得企业根本不该扮演任何角色,而且你不会把自己的价值观强加给别人。

You said you didn't think business should have a role at all and you wouldn't impose your values on others.

更让我吃惊的是,你还说,如果 Berkshire 持有枪支制造商的股票,你也可以接受。

I was even more surprised when you said you'd be okay with Berkshire owning shares in gun manufacturers.

几年前在这场会议上,你说过,因为社会层面的问题,你不会去买一家烟草公司。

At this meeting years ago, you said you wouldn't buy a tobacco company because of the social issues.

Berkshire 似乎只要一家公司不违法,就都可以与之发生关联,这种想法和我一直认为你所坚持的一切都相冲突。

The idea that Berkshire would associate with any company as long as it isn't illegal seems at odds with everything I think you stand for.

请告诉我们,你当时是说错了。

Please tell us you misspoke.
M2
M21:08

嗯,我们来稍微展开说说这个问题。

Well, let's explore that a little.

这应该只是我个人的看法,还是应该代表公司所有者的看法?

Should it be just my view, or should it be the view of the owners of the company?

所以,如果我决定就各种政治议题去征询公司所有者的意见,其中一个问题是 Berkshire Hathaway 是否应该支持 NRA,我知道,如果多数股东投票支持这么做,或者如果董事会多数成员投票支持这么做,我也不会接受。

So if I decide to poll the owners of the company on a variety of political issues, and one of them being whether Berkshire Hathaway should support the NRA, I know if a majority of the shareholders voted to do it, or if a majority of the board of directors voted to do it, I wouldn't accept that.

我不认为我的政治观点——我不觉得我一接下这份工作,就得把这些观点统统放进什么 blind trust 里,完全不去碰它。

I don't think that my political views, I don't think I put them in a blind trust at all when I take the job.

而且在二零一六年的选举里,我募了很多钱。

And I, in the election of 2016, I raised a lot of money.

就我个人来说,我是替 Hillary 募款,而且我也用各种方式公开表态,说得相当直接。

In my case, I raised it for Hillary, and I spoke out in various ways that were quite frank.

但我不认为那样做的时候——我不认为自己是在代表 Berkshire 发言。

But I don't think that I speak— when I do that, I don't think I'm speaking for Berkshire.

我是以一个普通公民的身份在说话,我也不认为我有资格替 Berkshire 发言。我们在母公司这个层面,从来没有做过政治捐款。

I'm speaking as a private citizen, and I don't think I have any business speaking for Berkshire. We have never, at the parent company level, we have never made a political contribution.

你知道,我可能会去——而且我不会,我不会去找我们的供应商。

You know, I may go, and I don't, I don't go to our suppliers.

我不会做那种事,不会为了我上过的学校,或者我支持的政治候选人,或者别的什么去向他们募款。

I don't do anything of that sort where I raise money either for the school I went to or for a political candidate I went to or anything else.

而且我也不觉得,我们应该在 GEICO 的保单持有人表格上加一个问题:你是不是 NRA 的成员?

And I don't think that we should have a question on the GEICO policyholder form, are you an NRA member?

你知道,如果你是,那你对我们来说就不够格,或者类似这种意思。

You know, and if you are, you just aren't good enough for us, or something like that.

我认为,我不相信把我个人的政治观点强加到我们各个企业的经营活动上;而且如果你要去界定哪些公司是纯洁的,哪些又不是,我觉得这非常难下判断。

I think I do not believe in imposing my political opinions on the activities of our businesses, and if you get to what companies are pure and which ones aren't pure, I think it is very difficult to make that call.

好。

Okay.

我觉得听完这个回答,我都快不敢点 Charlie 来讲了,不过还是请吧,Charlie。

I think with that response, I'm almost afraid to call on Charlie, but go ahead, Charlie.
M3
M33:21

嗯,很显然,你们还是会划一条界线的,Warren。

Well, obviously, you do draw a limit, Warren.

对,我们会。

Yeah, we do.

有各种各样的事情,虽然合法,但也低于我们的标准;不过我们也不一定每次都画得那么完美,不是因为我们拥有什么至高无上的知识。

There are all kinds of things which are beneath us even though they're legal, but we don't necessarily draw it perfectly because we've got some sort of supreme knowledge.

我们就是尽我们所能做到最好。

We just do the best we can.

而且我们当然不会把 Omaha 那些被野火鸡交出来的枪全都禁掉。

And certainly we're not going to ban all guns surrendered by wild turkeys in Omaha.