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2000年股东大会 · 巴菲特与芒格谈榜样的力量

51 段 · 3 位说话人 · 原片 4:12
M1
M10:00

你好,Buffett 先生。

Hello, Mr. Buffett.

你好。

Hi.
M2
M20:01

Munger 先生。

Mr. Munger.
M1
M10:02

我叫 Aaron Wexler。

My name is Aaron Wexler.

我来自 California 的 Santa Maria。

I'm from Santa Maria, California.

我有——我的问题分两个部分。

I have— my question has 2 parts.

第一部分是,前些时候你和 Bill Gates 一起上电视节目时,有人问到那些——有不同榜样的人。

The first part is, when you and Bill Gates had a television show some time ago, you were asked about the people who were— had different role models.

你当时说,你说,嗯,如果你——如果我知道一个人的榜样是谁,我基本上就能判断他是什么样的人,还有他将来会怎么样。

And you said, you said, well, uh, if you— if I know a person's role model, I can pretty well tell what kind of a person he is and what kind of a future he has.

呃,Buffett 先生,我的——我的榜样是 Warren Buffett。

Uh, Mr., Mr. Buffett, my, my role model is Warren Buffett.

你觉得我有希望吗?

Do you think I have a chance?
M2
M20:45

嗯,我希望你选我当榜样,是因为你也希望自己能活到高寿。

Well, I hope you're choosing me on the basis you hope to expect to live to an advanced age.

我愿意相信,这就是我能带来的价值。

I'd like to think that that's what I bring to the party.

嗯,不过,选对榜样确实是有好处的。

Um, well, it, it does pay to have the right models.

我是说,我很幸运,在很早、非常早的人生阶段就有了几个英雄人物,后来一路走来,我又陆续找到了几个,他们都特别棒,而且从来没让我失望过。

I mean, I, I was very lucky early, very early in life that I had certain heroes, and I've continued to develop a few more of them as I've gone along, and they've been terrific, and they've never let me down.

这会陪你走过很多事情。我觉得,你知道,这本来就是很自然的,你会在很大程度上模仿那些你真正敬佩的人,尤其是如果你在足够小的时候就开始这样。

And it takes you through a lot, and I think that, you know, it, it just stands to reason that you copy very much, uh, the people that you do look up to, and particularly if you do it at an early enough age.
M3
M31:22

所以……

So...
M2
M21:22

对。

Yeah.

我觉得,如果你能影响一个五岁、八岁或者十岁孩子心里的榜样,你知道,那会产生巨大的影响。

I think if you can influence the model, the role models of a 5-year-old or an 8-year-old or a 10-year-old, you know, it's going to have a huge impact.

当然,几乎每个人一开始最初的榜样都是自己的父母。

And of course, everybody virtually starts out with their initial models being their parents.

所以,他们才是会对孩子产生那种巨大影响的人。

So they are the ones that are going to have that huge effect on them.

如果这个家长最后证明是一个很好的榜样,我觉得这对孩子会是一个巨大的加分。

And if that parent turns out to be a great model, I think it's going to be a huge plus for the child.

我觉得,在人生里,身边有对的榜样,比很多很多别的东西都更重要。

I think that it beats a whole lot of other things in life to to have the right models around.

而且我一直都是,像我说的那样,即使在我——随着年纪越来越大,我也还是又吸收了几个新的榜样。

And I have, like I say, even after I— as I've gotten older, I've picked up a few more.

这会影响你的行为。

And it influences your behavior.

我对此深信不疑。

I'm convinced of that.

而且如果你——你会想变得更像那个你敬佩的人,像到什么程度,可能是一点,也可能很多,这要看你的个性。

And if you— you will want to be a little more or a lot more, depending on your personality, like the person that you admire.

我也会跟课堂上的学生说,我告诉他们,你知道,就挑出班里你最佩服的那个人,坐下来,把你佩服他的原因都写出来,然后试着想一想,为什么你自己不能也拥有那些同样的品质。

And I tell the students in classes, I tell them, you know, just pick out the person you admire the most in the class and sit down and write the reasons out why you admire them, and then try and figure out why you can't have those same qualities.

因为那些并不是什么把橄榄球扔出六十码,或者一百一十码跨栏跑得飞快之类的能力。

Because they're not the ability to throw a football 60 yards or run the 110 flat or something like that.

那些是人格、品性、性情方面的特质,是可以去学习、去效仿的。

They're qualities of personality, character, temperament that, that can be emulated.

不过你得早点开始。

But you got to start early.

以后再想改变行为习惯,是很难的。

It's very tough to change behavior later on.

你也可以按照 Charlie 的理论,反过来用这个办法。

And you can apply the reverse of it following Charlie's theory.

你可以去找那些你不喜欢的人,然后问自己,我到底不喜欢这些人的什么地方?

You can find the people that you don't like and say, what don't I like about these people?

然后你就可以——这个嘛,当然需要一点性格上的力量——往自己内心看看,问一句,我身上是不是也有一点这种东西?

And then you can— if, if, you know, it takes a little strength of character, but you can look inward and say, you know, have I got some of that in me?

而且,呃,这不复杂,真的不复杂。

And, uh, it's not, it's not complicated.

Ben Graham 就是这么做的。

Ben Graham did it.

Ben Franklin 也是这么做的。

Ben Franklin did it.

而且,而且,呃,这一点都不复杂。

And, and, uh, it's not complicated.

没有什么事比这更简单了:就是去弄明白你欣赏的是什么,然后再决定,你真正希望去佩服的那个人,其实是你自己。

Nothing could be more simple than to, uh, to try and figure out what you find admirable and then decide, you know, that the person you really would like to admire is yourself.

而你唯一能做到这一点的方式,就是吸收那些你所欣赏的人身上的品质。

And the only way you're going to do it is take on the qualities of other people you admire.

总之,这算是我对这个问题的两分钟回答——Bill 和我确实也稍微谈过一点这个话题。

Anyway, that's a two-minute answer on, on something Bill and I did talk a little bit about.

Charlie?

Charlie?
M3
M33:21

对,而且也没必要只去找活着的榜样。

Yeah, there is no reason also to look only for living models.

那些已经去世的杰出人物——从事物的本质来说——往往就是身边最好的榜样之一。

The eminent dead are the— are in the nature of things some of the best models around.

如果你想要的只是一个榜样,那你最好别把范围只限于活着的人。

And if it's a model is all you want, you're really better off not limiting yourself to the living.

有些最好的榜样,已经去世很久了。

Some of the very best models have been dead for a long time.
M2
M23:48

Charlie 读过的传记,可能比这个房间里任何三个人加起来都还多。

Charlie has probably read more biography than any three people in this room put together.

所以他是真的把这个理念付诸实践了。

So he has put this into practice.

而且,正如刚才有人提到的,Janet Lowe 写的一本关于 Charlie 的传记,会在今年晚些时候出版。

And as somebody mentioned earlier, Janet Lowe has a biography of Charlie coming out here later this year.

到时候你们就可以读到 Charlie 人生里的所有秘密了。

So you can read all the secrets of Charlie's life.

好,第七个问题。

Okay, number seven.