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1994年股东大会 · 巴菲特:分拆伯克希尔对于提高投资回报率没有帮助

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M1
M10:00

我是来自 Palo Alto 的 Lee,再次提问。

Lee again from Palo Alto.

按 Omaha 的标准来说,你算是比较年轻的,而且你每年都会提到,现在 Berkshire 的规模已经大到没法再做那些当年让你成名的、规模虽小但非常出色的交易了。

By Omaha standards, you are a relatively young man, and every year you point out that Berkshire's size now precludes you from making the great relatively small trades which made your reputation.

你有没有认真想过把 Berkshire 拆分成更小的实体?

How much thought have you given to breaking up Berkshire into smaller entities?
M2
M20:22

想过多少什么?

How much what?
M1
M10:23

你有没有认真考虑过把 Berkshire 拆开?

How much thought have you given to breaking up Berkshire?

把 Berkshire 拆成更小的实体,这样你就能去做那些你一开始做过的、很棒的、小规模交易了?

Berkshire into smaller entities, which would allow you to make those nice, small, wonderful trades that you made from the beginning?
M2
M20:34

这不会——把它拆成更小的实体也不会有任何好处,因为我仍然会持有,你知道,我们还是得对一百多亿美元的资本负责,不管它放在哪里都一样。

It wouldn't— it wouldn't do any good to break into smaller entities because I'd still own, you know, we'd still have $10 billion-plus of capital to be responsible for, wherever it would be.

所以,那个,当然了,我们可以把这些资金分配给股东,让他们自己做决定。

So the, uh, we, we could distribute it out to the shareholders and, and let them make their own decisions, obviously.

而且任何时候,只要我们觉得每留存一美元,拿不到超过一美元的价值回报,那显然就是该走的路。

And anytime we thought that we weren't going to get more than a dollar of value per dollar retained, that obviously would be the course to follow.

但搞出好多个小——我的意思是,我们可以把它们叫做 Berkshire II、Berkshire III,然后各有十亿美元去投资,但这其实并不能解决任何问题。

But there's no magic to creating multiple little— I mean, we could, we could call Berkshire II, Berkshire III, and have $1 billion to invest, and, and it doesn't really solve anything.

Charlie,你对这个有什么看法吗?

Charlie, do you have any thoughts on that?
M3
M31:21

谢谢。

Thank you.

没有,Berkshire 在权力和决策落在各个运营部门这件事上,是高度分权的。

No, Berkshire is incredibly decentralized in terms of power and decisions resting in the operating divisions.

但在 marketable securities 这方面,它又是高度集中的。

In terms of the marketable securities, it's incredibly centralized.

到目前为止,因为没法再做我们年轻时做过的那些事,我们并没有因此付出什么大的代价。

And so far, we have not had any big penalty from not being able to do the things that we did when we were young.

不过最终,我们还是会碰到这个代价。

Eventually, we will reach the penalty.
M2
M22:00

对,我觉得——毫无疑问,用十万美元运作,我们能赚到的收益率百分比,肯定会比运作一百亿美元更高。

Yeah, I think we're— there's no question we could earn higher percentage returns working with $100,000, though, than $10 billion.

但随着规模变大,这件事对我们的影响并没有像我们原先以为的那么大。

But it hasn't hurt us as much as we thought it would as size has increased.

你的机会范围会缩小,但不管怎样它都会缩小——我的意思是,你可以把它放在二十个银行账户里,也可以放在一个银行账户里,但总归还是一样——这些机会最终都得能容纳合计这一百亿美元。

Your universe of opportunity shrinks, but it shrinks no matter— I mean, you can set it up in 20 bank accounts or 1 bank account, but you still— the universe still has to fit the $10 billion in aggregate.

对。

Yes.