在一个中美主导的世界里，中国的年轻人有什么机会？ — 文稿

M10:00

你好，Buffett 先生。

Hi, Mr.

M20:01

还有 Munger 先生。

Buffett and Mr. Munger.

我叫 Kevin，来自中国深圳，现在在 Boston College 学 finance 和 philosophy。

My name is Kevin, and I'm from Shenzhen, China, currently studying finance and philosophy at Boston College.

我有一个比较宽泛的问题。

I have a rather broad question.

在这个越来越全球化的世界里，你们觉得我们年轻一代可以怎么最好地利用自己同时了解中国和美国的背景与经验，来创造价值，并进一步让两国的经济和关系都受益？

In this more and more globalized world, what do you think our younger generation can do to best leverage our background and experience of both China and the U.S. to create value and further benefit the two countries' economy and relationship?

还有，你们觉得——一个有多元文化背景的人，身上什么东西是有价值的？

And what do you think—what do you see valuable in a person with a multicultural background?

谢谢。

Thank you.

M10:36

嗯，我觉得先回答你最后那个问题，我认为拥有多元文化背景是非常棒的。

Well, I think in answer to the last question, I think it's terrific to have a multicultural background.

我自己一直不太擅长学语言，不过如果我是现在的大学生，而且是在这两个国家里的任何一个，我都会去学另一个国家的语言，因为我觉得从长远看，那会是一个很大的优势。

And if I never was any good at languages, but if I were in college today and in either country, I'd be learning the language of the other country, because I think it'll be a great advantage over time.

嗯，我会先从会多种语言开始。

Well, I'd start with being multilingual.

我的意思是，至少从这个角度说，你当然得能够用两种语言表达自己，而且你越能理解另一个社会的文化，那显然就越有好处。

I mean, certainly in terms of, you know, I mean, obviously you want to be able to express yourself in both, and the better you can understand, obviously, the culture of another society, obviously that's a benefit.

不过我认为，市场体系——虽然在中国和美国都各自经过了一些调整——它真正起作用的方式是：某种程度上，确实有一只看不见的手，会因为中国、美国以及世界其他地方都在进步，而推动改善未来几代人的生活处境。

But I think the market system, modified as it may be, both in China and in the United States, the way it really does—there will be an invisible hand to some extent that does work to improve the lot of future generations by the fact that both China and the United States and the rest of the world is improving.

我的意思是，在我看来，尤其是在一个有核武器的世界里，世界各地的人都更富足一些会好得多，这一方面来自他们自己的努力，另一方面也来自他们和世界其他地区的互动。

I mean, it is much better in my view, particularly in a nuclear world, but it's much better to have people prospering throughout the world, partly through their own efforts, but partly through their interactions with the rest of the world.

而且我们在这方面已经取得了很大进展，特别是从 World War II 之后。

And we've made a lot of progress in that respect, particularly since World War II.

我的意思是，搞 Marshall Plan 是个特别了不起的主意，而不是像 World War I 之后那样行事，最后得到那样的结果。

I mean, it was a terrific idea to have the Marshall Plan instead of behaving like we did after World War I and getting the result that we got.

我认为我们在 World War II 之后的做法聪明得多。

I think we made it much more intelligently after World War II.

所以我看好美国的未来，但我也看好中国的未来，而且在相当大程度上，也看好世界其他地方的未来。

So I'm bullish on the future of the United States, but I'm bullish on the future of China and to a significant extent, you know, the rest of the world.

十年、二十年、五十年之后，人们的生活都会变得更好。

People are going to be living better 10, 20, 50 years from now.

而且我觉得，Charlie，除非出现大规模杀伤性武器，否则这种趋势是挡不住的。

And I don't think that's something that can be stopped even, Charlie, absent weapons of mass destruction.

M32:42

对，不过关于多元文化这件事吧，如果你是在中国当一个 proctologist，或者是在 Nebraska 当一个 proctologist，那你英语和中文都很流利，其实也帮不了你太多。

Yeah, well, the multicultural stuff, it wouldn't do you much good to be fluent in both English and Chinese if you were, say, a proctologist in China or a proctologist in Nebraska.

所以，如果你要用上自己的多元文化背景，你就得在美国和中国之间的某种交界面上工作。你可以像 Li Lu 那样在美国募资、拿去中国投资；或者你可以做某种 importer，或者贸易方面的 specialist。总之，你得靠近那个交界面，才能从双语能力之类的东西里受益。

You just—so if you're gonna use your multicultural background, you've gotta work at some interface between the United States and China, and you can raise money in the United States and invest it in China like Li Lu does, or you can be some kind of an importer or a trade specialist, but you've got to get near that interface to benefit from being bilingual and so on.

M13:30

不过你会赌这个交界面未来会大得多，对吧？

But you would bet that the interface will be substantially greater?

会大很多。

Huge.

M33:34

对。

Yeah.

而这就是你该为之做准备的方向。

And that's what you want to prepare for.

对。

Yes.

而且我觉得，一般来说，当你具备多元文化背景时，你也可能同时具备跨学科能力。

And I think that, generally speaking, when you get multicultural, you can also be multidisciplinary.

不过通常来讲，我觉得如果一个人是非常狭窄、非常专精的专家——就像那个 proctologist——往往会赚更多钱。

But generally, I think people make more money if they're very narrowly specialized, like the proctologist.

而且对大多数人来说，如果你想模仿 Warren 和我那样，要赚很多钱就困难得多。

And that it's much harder to make a lot of money for most people if you try and imitate Warren and me.

M14:00

幸好我没更早遇到他。

I'm glad I didn't meet him earlier.

我是说，

I mean,