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2014年股东大会 · 巴菲特谈自己为何要过节俭的生活

37 段 · 3 位说话人 · 原片 3:03
M1
M10:00

Buffett 先生,我叫 Neil Patel,来自 Chicago。

Mr. Buffett, my name is Neil Patel from Chicago.

我特别佩服您,明明已经非常富有了,个人生活却依然过得这么节俭。

I greatly admire the way you have lived a frugal personal life even with your considerable wealth.

您觉得这么多年来,您的节俭给 Berkshire 的股东带来了哪些帮助?

How do you think your frugality has helped Berkshire shareholders over the years?

还有 Charlie,您觉得有没有什么情况,是 Warren 的节俭反而伤害了 Berkshire 股东利益的?

And Charlie, are there any instances where you think that Warren's frugality has hurt Berkshire shareholders?
M2
M20:19

嗯,首先,我们先问问,咱们俩到底谁更节俭。

Well, first of all, let's ask who is the more frugal between us.

Charlie,你觉得呢?

Charlie, who do you think?
M3
M30:24

嗯,要说个人消费的话,Warren 更节俭。

Well, in personal consumption, Warren is more frugal.
M2
M20:37

你愿意举个例子吗?

Would you care to give an example?
M3
M30:42

Warren 现在还住在他当年用一个非常便宜的价格买下的那套房子里,那是什么时候来着,五十年代后期?

Warren lives in the same house he bought for a very modest price, what, in 1950-something?
M2
M20:47

我是 1958 年买的,你大概是 1960 年搬进你那套房子的,对吧?

I bought it in 1958, and you moved into yours about 1960, didn't you?
M3
M30:52

对,而且我花的钱更多。

Yeah, and I paid more.

不过他的房子是他自己设计的。

But he designed his own house.

他没花钱请 architect,对吧?

He did not pay an architect, right?

我请了。

I did.

我付给 architect 一千九百美元。

I paid an architect $1,900.

那大概只相当于正常价格的百分之三十。

It was as much as 30% of the normal price.
M2
M21:08

注意到了吗,他连这些细节都记得。

Notice how he remembers the details.

不,我会——我这一生里想要的东西,其实都已经有了。

No, I would— I have everything in life I want.

这事很简单。

It's a very simple thing.

如果真有哪样东西是钱能买到、而且我又想要的,我今天下午就会去买。

If there's anything that— there are things money can't buy, but if there's anything money could buy that I wanted, I'd do it this afternoon.

这对我来说完全不是问题。

I wouldn't have any problem with that at all.

我不认为生活水平和生活成本在超过某个点之后,还是等同的。

I do not think that standard of living equates with cost of living beyond a certain point.

我的意思是,在达到某个点之前,毫无疑问它们是相关的,比如说有好的住房、好的健康状况、好的医疗服务、好的食物,所有这些。

I mean, up to a certain point, there's no question that it does, in terms of having good housing, good health, good health service, good food, everything.

还有好的交通。

But good transportation.

但我觉得,过了那个点之后,如果说有什么关系的话,反而会开始变成负相关。

But there's a point, I think, if anything, you start getting inverse correlation.

我的生活并不会因此更快乐。

My life would not be happier.

事实上,如果我有六套八套房子,或者你知道的,一大堆我本来买得起的各种东西,我的日子反而会更糟。

In fact, it'd be worse if I had 6 or 8 houses or, you know, a whole bunch of different things I could have.

这两者就是没有那种对应关系。

It just doesn't correlate.

所以,对我来说,我已经拥有我所拥有的一切了,我是说,再多你也不可能真正拥有更多。

And so I, having everything I have, I mean, you can't have more than that.

而且这真的——它在某个阶段之前确实有差别,但过了那个点就不是了。

And that doesn't really make any— it makes a difference up to a point.

我的意思是,当你到了 X 的时候,你的想法可能就会很不一样了,但当你到了十倍 X、一百倍 X,或者一千倍 X 的时候,这其实就完全不会带来任何实质性的差别。

I mean, you can start thinking a lot differently when you got to X, but when you get to 10X or 100X or 1,000X, it just doesn't make any possible difference.

Charlie,你能——。

Charlie, can you—.
M3
M32:32

节俭基本上一直都在帮助 Berkshire,而且我看看在座各位,我也看到一群低调、节俭的人。

Frugality basically has helped Berkshire, and I look out at this audience and I see a bunch of understated, frugal people too.

我们就爱聚拢你们这样的人。

We collect you people.
M2
M22:48

不过这个周末就先别想这个了。

But forget about it this weekend.

各位,在这样的价格下,你买得越多,省得越多。

The more you buy, the more you save at these prices, folks.

好,Andrew。

Okay, Andrew.