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2008年股东大会 · 巴菲特的消费观:不要过分节俭,也不要入不敷出

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M1
M10:00

大家早上好。

Good morning.

我叫 Tim Pham。

My name is Tim Pham.

我来自 Texas 的 Austin。

I'm from Austin, Texas.

关于跟别人攀比这种诱惑,我想替我的孩子听听你们两位的看法。

For my children, I would like to hear from both of you as far as the temptation to keeping up with the Joneses.

另外,能不能请你们给他们一些关于节俭、负债和工作态度方面、能让他们一辈子受用的建议?

And can you give them advice that they can live by with respect to frugality, debt, and work ethic?
M2
M20:24

对啊,就告诉他们跟上 Buffetts 就行了。

Yeah, just tell them to keep up with the Buffetts.

嗯,Charlie 和我一直都很推崇量入为出,你要是能做到这一点,以后你能支配的收入就会多得多。

Well, Charlie and I have always been big fans of living within your income, and if you do that, you'll have a whole lot more income later on.

然后,呃,你知道,我觉得——在相当大程度上,当然不是百分之百——他们会照着父母的样子来。

And, uh, you know, it— I think they will, to a considerable extent, not a perfect extent, they will follow the example of their parents.

我是说,如果父母总是在惦记邻居拥有的每一样东西,或者老想着怎么把生活成本越抬越高,却不一定真的提高生活品质,孩子多半也会学到这些。

I mean, if their parents are coveting, you know, every possession of their neighbor, you know, or trying to figure out ways to increase their cost of living without necessarily their standard of living, the kids are likely to pick up on it.

不过,呃,你知道,要是你对他们管得太严,也可能起反效果,等他们长大以后反而会一下子放飞了。

But, uh, you know, you can get the reverse effect if you get too tough with them, they go crazy later on.

但是——

But the—
M1
M11:15

哦,这个——

Oh, it's—
M2
M21:16

人们会自己做出这种选择。

People make that election.

顺便说一句,呃,也有不少人我是不会建议他们去存钱的。

And incidentally, there are people, uh, there are plenty of people that I don't advise to save.

我的意思是,真正的情况是——如果你日子本来就过得紧巴巴的,收入还算过得去,工作里也有 401(k) 在替你存钱,而且你还有 Social Security,那谁又能说得准,把本来可以花在家人身上的一块钱省下来不花,比如少去一次 Disneyland、少做一些能让他们特别开心的事,就一定比等你七十五岁的时候,能买一条三十英尺的船、而不是二十英尺的船,更好吗?

I mean, the real— if you're struggling along and making a reasonable income and you have a job with a 401(k) being put aside for you and, and you have Social Security, who's to say whether it's better to defer a dollar of expenditure on your family on a trip to Disneyland or something that they'll get enormous enjoyment out of so that when you're 75, you can have a, you know, a 30-foot boat instead of a 20-foot boat.

我的意思是,这里面是有取舍的;在孩子还小的时候,把钱花在家人身上,给他们一些快乐、教育,或者别的什么,这些形式的支出本身也有它的好处。

I mean, there are choices, and there are advantages to spending money in various forms for your family when it's young and giving them various forms of enjoyment or education or whatever it may be.

所以我不主张——我自己也许会这么做——但我不主张极端节俭。

So I don't advocate— I may practice, but I don't advocate extreme frugality.

我也不会说,把收入的百分之十存下来,就一定永远比只存百分之五更好。

And I don't say that it's always better to be saving 10% of your income instead of 5% of your income.

但我觉得,花掉收入的百分之一百零五是很疯狂的,我觉得那会带来各种各样的问题。

I think it's crazy to be spending 105% of your income, and I think that that leads to all kinds of problems.

而且我每天都会收到来信,都是亲身碰到这类问题的人写来的。

And I get letters from people every day that have experienced those problems.

不过我觉得,归根结底,如果你心里有自己的评判标准,那就意味着,你不会因为过着和邻居不一样的生活,就变成更好或更差的人。

But I, you know, in the end, you, if you want to have an internal scorecard, I mean, you are not a better person or a worse person because you live a different kind of life than your neighbor.

过一种对你自己来说真实、自在的生活。

Live a life that, you know, is true to yourself.

Charlie?

Charlie?

对,显然,教育孩子最好的办法,就是给他们做出合适的榜样。

Yeah, it's obviously the best method to train your children, to provide the proper example.

我觉得我们现在听到的这个孩子,大概就是没得到这种建议。

I think we're hearing a child that didn't get that advice.

不过当然了,就算你真的做出了正确的榜样,很可能也未必管用。

But of course, even if you do provide the proper example, it's likely not to work.
M1
M13:14

到中午了。

It's noon.
M2
M23:14

至少有时候是这样。

Some of the time, anyway.

现在确实到中午了。

It's noon now.

我们休息大概三十到四十分钟。

We'll take about a 30- to 40-minute break.

我们等会儿再回来。

We'll come back.

在另外那个房间的一些朋友,午饭后这边通常都会空出一些座位,所以你们也许可以挪到主会场来。

Some of those who are in the other room, we always have some openings here after lunch, so you might be able to move into the main room.

我们就定在十二点四十五分重新开始。

We'll reconvene, we'll say, at 12:45.

我们会进行到三点钟。

We'll go till 3 o'clock.

我的表弟 Bill Buffett 会在 Bookworm 那边给大家签名。

My cousin Bill Buffett will be out at the Bookworm signing.

签的是那些写我祖父的书,我很期待几分钟后再见到大家。

Books about my grandfather, and I look forward to seeing you in a few minutes.

谢谢。

Thanks.