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马斯克:传统的护城河概念已经过时。巴菲特如何回应

30 段 · 3 位说话人 · 原片 3:24
M1
M10:00

这个问题来自 Keeley,实际上直接问的就是护城河这个问题。

This question comes from Keeley and actually is directly about the issue of moats.

他提到,Elon Musk 本周在 Tesla 的财报电话会上说了下面这段话。原话是:“我觉得护城河挺没意思的。”

He notes that Elon Musk this week on his Tesla earnings call said the following, quote, I think moats are lame.

从某种古朴、遗留下来的意义上说,它们还算不错。

They are like nice in a sort of quaint vestigial way.

但如果你抵御入侵军队的唯一防线就是一条护城河,那你撑不了多久。

And if your only defense against invading armies is a moat, you will not last long.

真正重要的是创新的速度。

What matters is the pace of innovation.

这才是决定竞争力的根本因素。”

That is the fundamental determinant of competitiveness, unquote.

所以,Warren,看来世界已经变了。

So Warren, it seems the world has changed.

商业竞争越来越激烈。

Business is getting more competitive.

创新的速度越来越快,科技正在影响一切。

Pace of innovation, technology is impacting everything.

Elon 说得对吗?

Is Elon right?
M2
M20:41

嗯,他说得对。

Well, he is.

Warren,Elon 说传统的护城河很古朴,这一点对一摊水来说确实没错。

Warren, Elon says a conventional moat is quaint, and that's true of a puddle of water.

他说,最好的护城河就是拥有巨大的竞争优势,这一点也没错。

And he says that the best moat would be to have a big competitive position, and that is also right.

不然就太荒唐了。

It's ridiculous.

Warren 并不是想真的去挖一条护城河,尽管护城河确实挺古朴的。

Warren does not intend to build an actual moat, even though they're quaint.
M3
M31:14

对。

Yeah.

当然有很多这样的企业。

There's certainly a great number of businesses.

这一直都是事实,只不过近些年来,变化的速度似乎确实加快了,诸如此类。

This has always been true, but it does seem like the pace has accelerated and so on in recent years.

比起以前,已经有更多护城河变得容易受到入侵了,但人们一直都在想办法这么做。

There's been more moats that have become susceptible to invasion than seemed to be the case earlier, but there's always been the attempt to do it.

当然,可能到处都有一些地方,那里的护城河依然和以前一样牢固。但你肯定应该一直努力增强自己的护城河,同时不断守住它。

And there, here and there, there are probably places where the moat is as strong as ever, but certainly you should be working at improving your own moat and defending your own moat all the time.

而且 Elon 可能会在某些领域彻底改变局面。

And Elon may turn things upside down in some areas.

我不觉得他会想在糖果生意上跟我们较量。

I don't think he'd want to take us on in candy.

不过,我们还有一些其他业务,也不会——

But, and we've got some other businesses that wouldn't—.
M2
M22:19

这总是很容易——你可以看看外面另一间屋里的 See's Candies,真正夺走 See's Candies 生意的,不会是科技。

It's always easy to— You can look at something like See's Candies out there in the other room, and it won't be technology that takes away the business in See's Candies.
M3
M32:38

可能会是别的什么东西让他们遇到麻烦。

It may be something else that catches them.

比如年轻人的幻想之类的。不过,确实有一些相当不错的护城河。

Young kids' fantasy or something, but there are some pretty good moats around.

比如说,成为低成本生产商,就是一道极其重要的护城河。

Being the low-cost producer, for example, is a terribly important moat.

像 GEICO 这样的企业,科技实际上并没有把成本降下来多少。

And something like GEICO, technology has really not brought down the cost that much.

我觉得,我们的情况是,确实有几家公司和我们的成本一样低,但在大型企业当中,我们属于低成本生产商。当你卖的是必需品时,这可不是什么坏事。

And I think our position as there are a couple of companies that have costs as low as ours, but among big, big companies, we are a low-cost producer, and that is not bad when you're selling an essential item.

好的,Greg。

Okay, Greg.