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2008年股东大会 · 巴菲特给业余投资者的忠告:不要期待太多

25 段 · 3 位说话人 · 原片 3:25
M1
M10:00

大家好,我叫 Timothy Ferriss。

Hi, my name is Timothy Ferriss.

我每年会在 Princeton University 做两次客座讲课,我想接着前面一个关于小额资金投资的问题说几句。

I am a guest lecturer at Princeton University twice a year, and I'd like to touch on an earlier question about investing with small sums of money.

我想问问你们两位,如果你们重新回到三十岁,银行里有自己的第一个一百万,你们会怎么投资?前提是你不是全职投资人,你还有另一份全职工作,靠其他储蓄大概能覆盖十八个月的生活开支,没有需要抚养的家属。而且如果你们能尽量具体一点,讲讲资产类别、比例,或者任何你们愿意提供的细节,对我的学生、对我自己,还有在场其他人都会非常有帮助。

I'd like to ask both of you, if you were 30 years old again and had your first million in the bank, how would you invest it, assuming you're not a full-time investor, you have another full-time job, you can cover your expenses with other savings for about 18 months, no dependents, and it'd be really helpful for my students, for myself, and others here if you could be as specific as possible about asset classes, percentages, whatever you're willing to offer.
M2
M20:49

嗯,我就说得非常简单。

Well, I'll be very simple.

我,我——按照你说的这些条件,我大概会把钱全部放进一个费用非常低的 index fund 里。可能会选 Vanguard 之类的,嗯,就是我知道比较可靠、而且成本很低的机构。

I, I— under the conditions you name, I'd probably have it all in a very low-cost index fund, and it'd probably be, you know, might be Vanguard, uh, somebody I knew was reliable, somebody where the cost was low.

而且因为你的设定是,这个人并不打算成为职业投资人,所以我会承认自己就是个业余投资者。我会觉得,除非是在一个非常强劲的牛市里买入——而现在并不是这种情况——那在当前条件下,从长期来看,这样做的表现会在一定程度上胜过 bonds。

And because you postulated that you're not going to become a professional investor, I would recognize the fact that I'm an amateur investor, and I would, I would feel that a— unless bought during a, uh, strong bull market, which this is— hasn't been— I would feel that that was going to outperform, to a degree, uh, bonds under current conditions over a long period of time.

然后我就会把这事忘掉,回去继续工作。

And then I'd forget it and go back to work.

Charlie?

Charlie?
M3
M31:37

对,事情的本质就是这样:你不可能有一大堆特别成功、成功得惊人的职业投资人。体系里有庞大的一群所谓的专业人士,在从这个系统里拿走像赌场荷官一样的利润,他们大多数人是靠把自己包装成职业投资人来做到这一点的。

Yeah, it's in the— it's in the nature of things that you aren't going to have a whole lot of screamingly successful professional investors, you've got a great horde of professionals taking croupiers' profits out of the system, most of them by pretending to be professional investors.

而且,这也是事情本来的样子。

And, and that is in the nature of things too.

但是,如果你根本没有什么理性的把握,能成为一个非常有本事的职业投资人,那你当然就该退一步,选择像 index fund 这样简单的东西。

And but if you don't have any rational prospects of being a very skilled professional investor, of course you should compromise on some simple thing like an index fund.
M2
M22:15

对,而且——你不会从任何人那里听到这种建议,因为没人靠给你这种建议拿钱。

Yeah, and that— you will not get that advice from anybody because nobody gets paid to give you that advice.

所以,会有各种各样的人告诉你,他们能比这做得好得多;还会告诉你,只要你付给他们 wrap fee,或者给他们 commissions,或者不管是什么费用,他们就能帮你做得更好。

And so you will have all kinds of people telling you how much better they can do for you than that, and how if you just give them a wrap fee or give them commissions or whatever it may be, that they will do better.

但平均来说,他们做不到更好。

But they won't do better on average.

你知道,如果还有另外一千个像你这样的人也这么做,那这一千人的整体结果会更差——如果他们去听那些向他们推销的人说的话。

You know, if 1,000 other people like you do the same thing, that group of 1,000 will do worse if they listen to the people that make pitches at them.

归根结底,你为什么还要期待——我的意思是,按我说的方式做,拉长到三十年或者四十年,你会拿到一个相当不错、完全过得去的回报。

And in the end, why should you expect— I mean, you'll get a very perfectly decent return over a 30 or 40-year period by doing what I suggest.

那当你自己并没有带来什么额外优势的时候,你为什么还要期待比这更多呢?

And why should you expect more than that when you don't bring anything to the party?

推销员会告诉你你能拿到,但其实你拿不到。

The salesman will tell you that you'll get it, but you won't.
M3
M33:00

我还想再给你一句提醒。

I would give you another word of warning.

不要因为你在这场会议上见到的 stockbrokers,就去判断整个 stockbrokers 群体。

Do not judge stockbrokers generally by the ones you meet at this meeting.

我们吸引来的,是这个世界上一些最有操守、最聪明的 stockbrokers。

We attract some of the most honorable, intelligent stockbrokers in the world.

他们并不能代表这个群体的整体水平。

They are not representative of the class.
M2
M23:17

他身上的政客本能刚刚冒出来了。

The politician in him just came out.

好,我们再来一个问题,然后就休息吃午饭。

Okay, we'll do one more and then we'll break for lunch.

七号。

Number 7.