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马斯克:传统的护城河概念已经过时。巴菲特如何回应

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M1
M10:00

这个问题来自 Keeley,而且其实就是直接在问护城河这个问题。

This question comes from Keeley and actually is directly about the issue of moats.

他说,Elon Musk 这周在 Tesla 的财报电话会上是这么说的,原话是:我觉得护城河这东西很逊。

He notes that Elon Musk this week on his Tesla earnings call said the following, quote, I think moats are lame.

它们有点像是那种挺可爱、但已经过时的残留物。

They are like nice in a sort of quaint vestigial way.

如果你抵御入侵大军的唯一防线就是一条护城河,那你撑不了多久。

And if your only defense against invading armies is a moat, you will not last long.

真正重要的是创新的速度。

What matters is the pace of innovation.

那才是决定竞争力的根本因素。

That is the fundamental determinant of competitiveness, unquote.

所以 Warren,看起来世界已经变了。

So Warren, it seems the world has changed.

商业竞争越来越激烈了。

Business is getting more competitive.

创新速度、科技,正在影响一切。

Pace of innovation, technology is impacting everything.

Elon 说得对吗?

Is Elon right?
M2
M20:41

嗯,他说得对。

Well, he is.

Warren,Elon 说传统意义上的护城河有点老派,这要是指一滩水,那确实是这样。

Warren, Elon says a conventional moat is quaint, and that's true of a puddle of water.

他还说,最好的护城河是拥有很强大的竞争地位,这一点也没错。

And he says that the best moat would be to have a big competitive position, and that is also right.

要不然就太可笑了。

It's ridiculous.

Warren 并不打算真去修一条护城河,虽然那东西挺古雅的。

Warren does not intend to build an actual moat, even though they're quaint.
M3
M31:13

对。

Yeah.

确实有很多很多企业。

There's certainly a great number of businesses.

这一直都是事实,不过看起来近些年这个节奏确实是在加快,诸如此类。

This has always been true, but it does seem like the pace has accelerated and so on in recent years.

相比以前,现在似乎有更多护城河更容易被攻破了,不过一直以来大家都在试图这么做。

There's been more moats that have become susceptible to invasion than seemed to be the case earlier, but there's always been the attempt to do it.

当然,到处也还是可能有一些地方,护城河依然跟以前一样牢固;但毫无疑问,你可以——也肯定应该——一直努力去加宽自己的护城河,时时刻刻守住自己的护城河。

And there, here and there, there are probably places where the moat is as strong as ever, but certainly you could work at— certainly should be working at improving your own moat and defending your own moat all the time.

而且 Elon 也许会在某些领域把局面彻底颠覆。

And Elon may turn things upside down in some areas.

不过我不觉得他会想在糖果这门生意上跟我们较量。

I don't think he'd want to take us on in candy.

但是,我们还有一些别的业务也不会——

But, and we've got some other businesses that wouldn't—.
M2
M22:19

这其实一直很容易理解——你看看外面另一个房间里的 See's Candies,真正夺走 See's Candies 生意的,不会是技术。

It's always easy to— You can look at something like See's Candies out there in the other room, and it won't be technology that takes away the business in See's Candies.
M3
M32:38

可能会是别的什么东西把他们吸引走。

It may be something else that catches them.

比如小孩子又迷上了什么新幻想之类的,不过有些护城河还是相当不错的。

Young kids' fantasy or something, but there are some pretty good moats around.

比如说,成为低成本生产者,就是一种极其重要的护城河。

Being the low-cost producer, for example, is a terribly important moat.

像 GEICO 这样的公司,技术其实并没有让成本下降那么多。

And something like GEICO, technology has really not brought down the cost that much.

我的看法是,在这方面有那么几家公司成本跟我们一样低,但在那些非常非常大的公司里,我们属于低成本生产者;而当你卖的是必需品的时候,这一点可不差。

And I think our position is there are a couple of companies that have costs as low as ours, but among big, big companies, we are a low-cost producer, and that is not bad when you're selling an essential item.

好,Greg。

Okay, Greg.