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1999年股东大会 · 伯克希尔持有的公司下跌50%,巴菲特如何评价?

35 段 · 3 位说话人 · 原片 3:56
M1
M10:01

大家好,我叫 Larry Widman,来自 North Dakota 的 Minot。

Hello, my name is Larry Widman from Minot, North Dakota.

你刚才已经提到过 Coke 和 Gillette 目前的估值,也提到了它们未来非常好的前景。

You've already hinted about Coke and Gillette's current valuations and also about their great prospects for the future.

但是在过去一年里,这两只股票都从高点下跌了百分之三十到百分之五十。

But in the past year, both stocks have been down 30 to 50% from their highs.

那它们还得再跌多少,你们关于安全边际的标准才会得到满足,才会让你们继续买入更多股份呢?

How much farther would they have had to fall before your criteria of margin of safety had been satisfied and allowed you to purchase more shares?

第二个问题,Disney 和 Cap Cities 的合并,进展得有没有像你原来希望的那样顺利?

And two, has the Disney-Cap Cities merger gone as well as you would have hoped?

还有,在你看来,Disney 未来的前景有没有发生变化?

And have the future prospects of Disney changed in your opinion?
M2
M20:30

第一个问题,关于 Coke 和 Gillette,这确实是个好问题,因为很明显,我们会去想那些我们最熟悉、而且已经重仓投入的企业。

First question, that's a good question on Coke and Gillette because obviously we think about the businesses that we're the most familiar with and where we're committed.

这两家公司都没有跌到那个会让我们很高兴继续投新钱进去的价格,但我们非常乐意持有这些企业,而且未来很长很长一段时间里,我们都会很高兴继续持有它们。

Neither one of those businesses got to the price that left us happy putting new money in, but we are quite happy, very happy owning those businesses, and we'll be happy owning them for a very long time to come.

这在某种程度上也说明了市场过去和现在所处的状态:即使它们遇到了一些比原先预期更艰难的经营环境,它们的股价也没有跌到让我们真正兴奋、想出手加仓的水平。

It's some evidence of where the market has been and is that even when they ran into some tougher business conditions than they anticipated, their stocks did not go down to the prices that caused us to get excited about them.

Charlie,你要不要就这个问题,或者第二部分,讲几句?

Charlie, do you want to comment on that or the second part?
M3
M31:14

这个嘛,没有,不过我倒是想提醒大家,Dilly Bar 是 Dairy Queen 的产品。

Well, no, but I do want to remind people that the Dilly Bar is a Dairy Queen product.
M2
M21:21

而且那东西确实好吃,这点我可以告诉你们。

And they are good, I can tell you that.
M3
M31:27

我可不想让股东们觉得,我们这个运营的商业水准在下滑。

I wouldn't want the shareholders to believe that the commercial standards of this operation are faltering.

一般来说,想在那些你长期真正喜欢的公司上来回高抛低吸,对大多数投资者都不是个好主意。

Generally speaking, trying to dance in and out of the companies you really love on a long-term basis has not been a good idea for most investors.

我们很满意就这么拿着我们最好的持仓。

We're quite content to sit with our best holdings.
M2
M21:51

这些年来,人们也一直想在 Berkshire 上这么操作,我有一些朋友有时候觉得它涨得有点超前了,就想着先卖掉,回头再用更便宜的价格买回来。

People have tried to do that with Berkshire over the years, and I've had some friends that thought it was getting a little ahead of itself from time to time, and they thought they'd sell and buy it back cheaper.

但这事其实相当难。

And it's pretty tough to do.

因为你得连续做对两个决定。

You have to make two decisions right, you know.

你得先把卖出的时点判断对,然后之后还得把买回来的时点判断对。

You have to sell it right first, and then you have to buy it right later on.

而且通常在这两个动作之间,你还得先交一笔税。

And usually you have to pay some tax in between them.

如果你进入的是一家很棒的企业,通常最好的做法就是一直拿着它。

If you get into a wonderful business, the best thing to do usually is to stick with it.

Coke 和 Gillette 都经历了一些让管理层失望的情况,结果低于他们在一年前、一年半前,或者不管当时是什么时候,所预期的水平,也低于我们原来的预期。

Coke and Gillette both experienced disappointments to their management, below what they anticipated a year, year and a half ago, or whenever it was, and below what we anticipated.

但这种事随着时间推移是会发生的。

But that will happen over time.

我们一些全资拥有的企业,也会时不时出现这种情况。

It happens with some of our wholly owned businesses from time to time.

当然,有时候它们也会比我们预期的做得更好。

Sometimes they do better than we anticipate too.

但事情的本质从来就不是一切都会沿着一条漂亮、笔直、平滑向上的线前进。

But it's not the nature of things that everything goes in a nice, straight, smooth line upward.

你提到了 Cap Cities。

You mentioned Cap Cities.

比如说,Cap Cities 的一些业务板块就做得非常非常好。

Parts of Cap Cities have done extraordinarily well, for example.

但是在 network 业务里,如果你把时间拉回到过去三十年,去看看哪家 network 曾经处在领先位置,你会发现,没有谁会永远待在最上面,也没有谁会永远待在最下面。

But in the network business, if you go back 30 years and look at what network has been on top, you find that no one stays on top or on the bottom indefinitely.

这就是个竞争激烈的世界,就像我前面提到的,有时候竞争对手做对了动作,你自己做错了动作,再加上外部环境,这些因素都会打断原本的趋势线。

It's a competitive world, as I mentioned earlier, and sometimes your competitors' correct moves, your own incorrect moves, the world environment, all of those things can interrupt trend lines.

就我来看,过去这一年里发生的事,没有任何一件改变刀片和剃须刀业务的长期趋势线;我以前说过,在 Gillette,这个趋势几乎是不可避免的。

I see nothing that's happened in the last year in terms of the long-term trend line of the blade and razor business, which is the one I've referred to as inevitable at Gillette.

我的意思是,还有一些别的业务,并不像刀片和剃须刀业务这样,属于同一类。

I mean, there are other businesses that are not in the same category as the blade and razor business.

幸运的是,Coke 几乎全部业务都在软饮料这一块,所以在那里,它基本上就构成了接近百分之百的整体。

Coke, fortunately, has virtually its entire business in soft drinks, and so it comprises almost 100% of the whole there.

但我看不到任何会改变刀片和剃须刀业务的长期前景,或者改变 Coke 在软饮料业务中地位的因素。

But I see nothing that would change the long-term future of either the blade and razor business or Coke's position in the soft drink business.

第一位?

Number 1?