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2007年股东大会 · 巴菲特:投资股票的好处,是不必每天都对市场有看法

36 段 · 2 位说话人 · 原片 4:13
M1
M10:00

嗨,Warren。

Hi, Warren.

嗨,Charlie。

Hi, Charlie.

我是来自 California,San Jose 的 Walter Chang。

I'm Walter Chang from San Jose, California.

我和我太太今年七月要迎来我们的第一个儿子,我们打算用你的名字给他取名,叫 Warren。

My wife and I are expecting our first baby boy in July, and we're going to name him Warren after you.
M2
M20:11

你这是又想进我的遗嘱了。

You're trying to get into my will again.
M1
M10:15

Charlie,下一个我支持你。

Charlie, I'm rooting for you for the next one.
M2
M20:20

我会把他再往后排一点,可能排到第五个。

I'd move him further down the line, maybe number 5.
M1
M10:27

Warren 和 Charlie。

Warren and Charlie.

Warren,如果让你给你一九九九年十一月那篇很有先见之明的 Fortune 杂志文章写一篇后续,你当时在里面谈到两个有起有落的十七年周期,你现在会写些什么?

Warren, if you were writing a follow-up to the very prescient Fortune magazine article from November 1999, in which you were talking about the lean and fat 17-year periods, what would you be writing?

另外,现在我们正好走到第三个十七年周期的一半了,按照你一九九九年当时的预期来看,到目前为止结果怎么样?

And since we're halfway through this third 17-year period, how is it turning out based on your expectations from back in 1999?
M2
M20:59

对,那个十七年,当然,我当时也稍微玩了一点文字游戏,因为刚好有两个十七年周期,而且十七年蝉也是十七年一轮。

Yeah, the 17 years, of course, I had a little fun with because of the fact that there were two 17-year periods, and there are also 17-year locusts.

所以从写作的角度说,我稍微拉伸了一下这个说法,不过特定的时间跨度本身并没有什么神奇之处。

So I stretched it a little from a literary standpoint, but there is nothing magic about given spans of time.

那个三十四年周期里的前十七年和后十七年,确实有很大的不同。

There was something very different between the first 17 years of that 34-year period and the second 17.

我就是拿这个来形成一种比较有戏剧性的对比。

And I used that for kind of a dramatic, uh, contrast.

如果现在让我来写,我会说的,跟我刚才回答 Frank Martin 问题时说的差不多,就是——如果我必须在长期债券和长期持有股票之间选一个,我宁愿持有股票。

If I were writing something now, I would say what I said just a little earlier in response to Frank Martin's question, that it is— if I had to own, um, long bonds or a long-term position in equities, I'd rather have equities.

不过我对股票的预期不会很高,但我会预期它们能高于百分之四点七五。

But I would not have high expectations for them, but I would have expectations beyond 4.75%.

到底高多少,我也不确定,但至少要比百分之四点七五高出足够多,这样我才会更愿意持有股票而不是债券。

How much beyond, I'm not sure, but something enough beyond 4.75% that I would rather own equities than bonds.

我在一九九九年的感觉是,人们是在把前一个十七年的经历直接外推,觉得持有股票这件事本身有什么神奇魔力,而这些人注定会失望。

I felt in 1999 that people were extrapolating the experience of the previous 17 years and assuming there was something magic about owning equities, and the people were bound to be disappointed.

他们只是用外推法得出了一个不现实的看法,而那篇文章最主要的目的就是指出这一点。

They simply had an unrealistic view by extrapolation, and that was the main purpose of that article.

不过如果现在让我来写点什么,呃,我对股票的预期依然不会高,但我对股票的预期会比对债券更好。

But if I were writing something now, uh, I would not have high expectations for equities, but I would have better expectations for equities than for bonds.

Charlie?

Charlie?

对,而且我会说,自从那篇文章写出来之后,持有股票的结果一直都挺清淡的,至少跟前面那个辉煌的十七年比起来是这样。

Yeah, and I would say that since that article was written, the results from owning equities have been pretty lean, at least compared to what happened in the glorious 17 years that preceded.

所以到目前为止,Warren 一直是对的,而且他现在说要保持适度预期,可能也是对的。

So Warren has been right so far, and he's probably right now when he says modest expectations.

对,在市场里,你真的没法每天、每周,甚至每个月,都说出特别重要或者特别聪明的话。

Yeah, you really don't have— in markets, you can't say something terribly important or intelligent every day or every week or every month.

这就是为什么如果你太频繁上电视,或者每周都写信之类的,会有问题。

That's one of the problems if you went on television too often or wrote weekly letters or something of the sort.

偶尔你是会碰到一些非常极端的情况。

Every now and then you get something extreme.

我是说,我确实在一九六九年关闭了那个 partnership,后来也出过一篇文章。

I mean, I did close down the partnership in 1969, and an article appeared.

我在七四年也确实接受过一次采访。

I did give an interview in '74.

我在八一年或者八二年又接受过一次采访。

I gave another interview in '81 or '82.

我的意思是,市场偶尔真的会严重失衡,但中间那些细微层次,呃,实在太难判断了。

I mean, every now and then things really get out of whack, but the gradations in between, uh, they're too tough.
M1
M13:49

对。

Yeah.
M2
M23:50

不过它的好处就在于,你不用每天、每周,或者每个月都非得有个看法。

But the nice thing about it is you don't have to have an opinion every day or every week or every month.

你知道,如果你持有的是一些好公司,而且买入价格也合适,那如果它们涨到了离谱的价格,你大概就应该卖掉。

You know, if you own some good businesses and you bought them at the right price, if they get to a silly price, you probably should sell them.

反过来,如果你发现所有东西都便宜得不得了,像七四年那样,你就应该把手头所有能动用的钱都投进 equities。

And if you find that everything is extremely cheap, like in '74, you should put every available dime into equities.

这就是我们一直在努力做的事。

And that's what we've tried to do.

第五个?

Number 5?