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1997年股东大会 · 资本利得税的高低是否会影响人们买卖股票的决定?

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F1
F10:00

我叫 Kristen Schramm。

My name is Kristen Schramm.

我来自 Illinois 州的 Springfield。

I am from Springfield, Illinois.

我是 Berkshire Hathaway 的一名自豪的股东。

I am a proud shareholder of Berkshire Hathaway.

考虑到即将到来的资本利得税下调,你们觉得会不会出现更多的卖压,比如说给 Berkshire 股票带来一些买入机会?

In light of the upcoming capital gains tax reduction, do you envision any increased selling pressure, such as buying opportunities for Berkshire stock?
M1
M10:29

这是个好问题,Kristen。

That's a good question, Kristen.

我们也很荣幸有你这样的股东。

We're proud to have you too.

Berkshire 的股票里,有非常非常高比例的股份,是由那些税务成本基础非常低的人持有的,所以如果让我猜的话,我会说,A 股里面至少大概百分之八十的股份,持有人的成本都低于每股一百美元。

A very, a very high percentage of Berkshire shares is owned by people with very low tax basis, so that if I had to guess, I would say that probably 80% at least of the shares are owned by people whose cost is less than $100 a share on the A stock.

这毫无疑问会让一些人不太愿意卖,尤其是年龄比较大的人。

And that undoubtedly contributes to some people's reluctance to sell, particularly if they're older.

但是,不过我,我觉得这件事带来的影响,可能——也许没有你想的那么大。

And, but I, I think it would probably— it might make less difference than you think.

我觉得,我觉得大多数人,就算资本利得税率更低了,

I think, I think most people if there were a lower capital gains rate.

我也不觉得这会让大家更倾向于卖出股票,而且幅度不会很大。

I don't think it would be a huge change in the propensity to sell the stock.

我倒是希望,就算资本利得税降到零,大家也不会真的一下子都往出口冲。

I would hope even if there was a zero capital gains tax that there really wouldn't be any rush for the exits.

这尤其不会影响我的态度。

It wouldn't affect my attitude particularly.

不过我觉得,假设随着税率下降,那些股票税务成本基础比较低的人,会更倾向于卖出一些,这个判断是完全合理的。

But I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that as the tax rate goes down, there will be some greater tendency to sell by people with a low tax basis on their shares.

Charlie?

Charlie?
M2
M21:57

嗯,我觉得按照微观经济学的规律,还有心理学的规律,如果你说税率会有一个月降到零,那市场里会出现一些非常剧烈的反应。

Well, I think the laws of microeconomics and the laws of psychology are such that if you said the tax rate will for one month go down to zero, you would have some very dramatic effects in, in the markets.

当然,这种事不会发生。

It's not going to happen, of course.
M1
M12:12

对,不过如果你说税率会有一个月降到零,之后再变成百分之百,那我觉得你肯定会看到一定程度的交易活动。

No, but if you said the tax rate was going to zero for one month and then going to 100% subsequently, I think you'd get a certain amount of activity.
M2
M22:18

不过那样的话,你就真的——也就是说,你完全可以通过调整税法,制造出非常显著的市场影响。

But then you'd really— so you could tinker with the tax laws in a way that would cause dramatic market effects.

但我不预期会发生这种事。

I don't anticipate any such things happening.

以前有过类似的情况,呃,是哪一年,八六年吧,当时长期资本利得税率是百分之二十,而且那是最后一年,你可以清算一家 corporation,而不用为清算中处置掉的已升值资产缴纳资本利得税。

We had something similar back when they, uh, what was it, '86, where the tax rate was 20% on long-term capital gains and it was the last year you could liquidate a corporation and not pay gains taxes on appreciated assets that were disposed of in the liquidation.

结果那一年就出现了大规模的清算潮。

And we got a great flood of liquidations in that year.

所以,税法确实是有可能被改到足以对市场产生很大影响的。

So it's possible to do things to the tax laws that have big market effects.

但我觉得今年发生这种事的可能性非常小。

I think it's very unlikely that any such thing is going to happen this year.
M1
M13:08

对,我同意。

Yeah, I agree with that.

二区?

Zone 2?